
What do you think of Karl Rove?
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Karl Rove
The clock is ticking for Karl Rove who has until July 10th to answer questions about his involvement in the 2006 firings of eight U.S. attorneys. The House Judiciary Committee has continued its investigations to find the culprit who gave the orders to dismiss the Republican-appointed U.S. Attorneys without explanation. Rove's own attorneys have tried to get their client off the hook since he was subpoenaed, but it looks like he is going to be crucified by Rep. John Conyers and other committee members.
The story of the dismissals made headlines in early December 2006. The Department of Justice had been caught firing attorneys without due justification. The attorneys, who were appointed by Bush, are still sure today that their dismissal was solidly politically motivated.
Former U.S. Attorney David Iglesias who was among those fired spoke with Tavis Smiley this week. Iglesias spoke about the book he released in May were he writes about the October phone call from New Mexico Senator Pete Domenici. Iglesias claims Domenici pressured him to speed up a federal corruption case against a Democrat leader, right before a mid-term election. Other U.S. Attorneys had similar experiences where they were pressured by other high level Republican officials to not prosecute fellow Republicans or for failing to prosecute Democrats.
Then U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales took a huge blow from this controversy, which forced him to resign, though he never admitted that it was due to the firings that he did so. The scandal was a wake up call to Americans about an administration that had no respect for the law and could and would do anything to get rid of anyone who wasn't "loyal" to the White House's wishes.
Iglesias has called the incident the "biggest scandal since Watergate." Many White House officials left W. Bush over the next few months after the Department of Justice controversy, including Karl Rove. Now, Rove must answer questions about what happened on December 2006 when the pink slips were passed around. According to a report by Democracy Now! House Judiciary Chair John Conyers rejected requests by Rove's attorneys that their client not be placed under oath and that his testimony not be transcribed. Apparently, Rove will not be firing his own attorneys just yet.
However, do not be surprised if after the investigation is over Karl Rove manages to walk away a free man, yet again. The Bush Administration is still in control and Republicans in the House and Senate will fight tooth and nail to avoid Rove from being indicted right before the November election. But Iglesias says that it's perhaps time for Rove to get a taste of justice and to learn that "what goes around, comes around." We'll see if the tall lady with the blindfold is not afraid of getting fired by Bush's people too.
Yes it is time and I have been following the story as I am able. Dan Abrams helped me to become aware of the continuing story. Thank you
Wonderful article Doris, thank you. It's amazing how little attention corporate media devotes to reporting the the crimes of this lawless regime. Fun choices on the poll too!!
Pamela,
Appointees should be smart enough to have plan B, i.e. circulating their resume at the end of a term.
The actual US Attorneys could be easily have a class lawsuit based in the noises of the 8 US Attorneys and I could support that.
Where are the CNN reporters?
One of the biggest problems I see with what Americans see as news is that you can't know what you don't know and lying by omission shapes much of what is going on in the public perception. Mainstream omits huge parts of the political activity and people have no idea what's really happening.
These news organizations are corporations who survive on ad dollars and it's not always good for their business to report certain angles. Welcome to Newsvine where we live to cover what the mainstream doesn't see fit to print! Glad to have you aboard. :~)
Where is Edward R. when you need him. Or Jack Anderson. Even Cronkite would do.
Well, they understand that it is a lost cause because the Dems are going to do the firing in masses when they take the power and replace them with their own.
Jesus, this is not rocket science.
Dems are going to do the firing in masses when they take the power and replace them with their own.
Just to be clear, I don't think one party is any better than the other and my view isn't based on liking one party any better than the other, I dislike both as institutions of corruption. But there is a world of difference between creating an organization of people who support your philosophy and firing people who expose corruption and crime simply because the targets are in one political party.
Pamela,
Did the 8 lawyers found a job or not yet?
Did the 8 lawyers found a job or not yet?
Who cares? Was Justice done in the name of the public?
Pamela, I care because if they were not ready to leave at the end of four years and haven't finding a job is because they were not that efficient.
This is very fishy and smelly.
I'm pretty sure what Bush did was legal as long as the motivation wasn't to stop an ongoing investigation. Clinton dismissed plenty of attorneys. I believe in both cases the fired attorneys were appointments, not career public servants. What I don't get is why the White House just doesn't admit it was within their rights and that it was politically motivated or say just cuz we felt like it and move on. I guess they prefer for this to keep getting press.
I guess they prefer for this to keep getting press
Keeping Conyers and Wax man busy is what I think.
dc_123: I'm pretty sure what Bush did was legal as long as the motivation wasn't to stop an ongoing investigation.
It's also not legal if the motivation is they won't conduct immoral, faux "investigations" of people Karl Rove finds objectionable, or if they insist on investigating corrupt Republicans just like anybody else no matter how much pressure the Rove/Gonzales/Bush monster puts on them to stop it.
Clinton dismissed plenty of attorneys.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
I believe in both cases the fired attorneys were appointments, not career public servants.
Which has exactly what to do with what? You can't perpetrate injustice on appointees?
What I don't get is why the White House just doesn't admit it was within their rights and that it was politically motivated or say just cuz we felt like it and move on.
They've done that. Seems they are having a hard time getting away with it -- uh, I mean moving on.
karl rove needs to answer questions concerning his role in this mess. it is high time for him to answer many questions, but this comes first. don't waste tears on rove, he does not have it coming. i have little doubt his lawyers are worried @!$%#less. but rove has an option of telling the truth and lying his butt off...it ain't that difficult. lie, or tell the truth!!! but, if you get caught in the lie, fess up...be a man about it and fess up. you would be surprised how much easier the powers that be will be on you if you tell the truth, even when your ass is in a sling...but lie, and then get caught?
luv,
ron
What's new?
Are they (8 US attorneys) collecting unemployment?
Are they (8 US attorneys) collecting unemployment?
The point is not what happened to the financial position of the attorneys but what happened to the public's ability to enforce the laws of the country. Justice is supposed to be blind and crime is not a matter of which political party did it but whether the laws are upheld. What happened to Justice?
Amazed at the compassion in poll as I assumed 100 percent would place him in the "Fire Pit"...? Where he belongs.
det.- these u.s attorney's job is to protect mom, apple pie...truth justice, and the american way...not the every whim of WHOMEVER (it is whomever, ain't it?) is in office. if a u.s attorney is being pressured to prosecute members of the other party, while skipping those of the party in power, regardless of degree or severity of alleged offense, would you not consider that a violation of law and an egregious misuse of power by an appointed official? not to mention that of public trust,ect. ( so, please don't mention it, ok), (thats a joke...oy). if i'm wrong, what the hell, it wouldn't be like its the first time, or anything. i've been wrong about a lot more important things than this, by god...uh...well...uh...
kuv,
ron
determined0a1 and dc_123 are correct. Due to the nature of the US Attorney position, it is completely in the White Houses rights to fire any of them at any time. While I do not agree with the reasons they were let go, there is NOTHING that has proven that anyone did anything illegal during this process. The members of Congress that are pushing for these hearings know this, but they also know that by continuing to push the issue they will get good press while giving the Bush Administration and by large Republicans bad press.
While in the Congress are arguing about 8 US Attorneys, in Vermont a sex ring of very young girls raped was going on and operated for at least 5 years under the noses of their politicians.
Children were not protected and Brooke Bennet is dead now.
Do you have a link for that story determined? I'm against crime no matter who gets burned and believe that both sides get away with far too much by arguing about issues that just distract us.
What frazzles me about even the title of this, is that it's in front of congress.
From my view of the government anyone speaking before congress in any capacity should be under oath without exception.
We have a saying here in Australia which I think is appropriate for this worm Rove. 'I wouldn't cock my leg and piss on him is he was on fire'. He's an evil little maggot and I hope he rots in hell. And he's a narc.
Yeah, we say, "I wouldn't cross the street to piss on him if he was on fire."
We have a saying here in Australia which I think is appropriate for this worm Rove. 'I wouldn't cock my leg and piss on him is he was on fire'. He's an evil little maggot and I hope he rots in hell. And he's a narc.
Well, in few months the page will be closed and new peacers will pass by in the new administration when in fire and no action will be taken.
Attention:
Karl Rove is back in the USA. I watched his face this morning in Fox.
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